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Topic: Hoid?? (Read 19176 times)
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KhyEllie
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Re: Hoid??
« Reply #255 on: February 05, 2010, 11:10:28 PM » |
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I was wondering how Adonalsium was a shard when people were calling them 'shards of adonalsium'. Makes sense Brandon wouldn't clear it all up in one sentence. Mind giving me a refresher on a voice talking to Lightsong?
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Patriotic Kaz
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Re: Hoid??
« Reply #256 on: February 05, 2010, 11:56:39 PM » |
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Before his return in "Heaven" he hears a voice give him a command....which is why he gives up his breath (I haven't read it in sometime someone please confirm)
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Chaos2651
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Re: Hoid??
« Reply #257 on: February 06, 2010, 01:37:14 AM » |
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Kaz basically has it right. It's the point near the very end, where Llarimar tells him Lightsong's true past. Then, in the next scene, Lightsong flashes back to the time when he actually died. A "Voice" speaks to him, and tells him to Return.
By the way, that Shard's name is confirmed to be called "Endowment", KhyEllie. Good to have you here.
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Terrisman243
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Re: Hoid??
« Reply #258 on: February 08, 2010, 02:21:02 AM » |
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KhyEllie- One quick thing- Afraid that Slowswift isn't Hoid. He's actually based off of 'Grandpa Tolkein'. Hoid is the whistling beggar that Vin gets spooked off by. (Brandon said this in the HoA thread)
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Re: Hoid??
« Reply #259 on: February 08, 2010, 08:43:19 PM » |
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Whistling? I thought he was humming... I can confirm that I've read the same thing about Slowswift = Tolkien though.
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Chaos2651
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Re: Hoid??
« Reply #260 on: February 08, 2010, 09:25:07 PM » |
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Yup, I definitely remember that as well. Of course, that's because on the MB3 spoiler thread I made the misconception Slowswift was Hoid, and Brandon corrected me. The wound still stings A small bit of solace comes from not being the only one who made the mistake, I suppose.
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Elusive Fehler
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Re: Hoid??
« Reply #261 on: February 21, 2010, 10:13:38 PM » |
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So have I read hints on this board that Hoid took a bead of Lerasium from the Well site before Elend did, if so I want to see Mistborn Hoid out flying around sometime. Or do we think that he has some other use for the Lerasium?
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Miyabi
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Re: Hoid??
« Reply #262 on: February 21, 2010, 10:23:29 PM » |
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I'm inclined to believe they took it as a souvenir rather than to use.
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Re: Hoid??
« Reply #263 on: February 21, 2010, 10:46:51 PM » |
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So have I read hints on this board that Hoid took a bead of Lerasium from the Well site before Elend did, if so I want to see Mistborn Hoid out flying around sometime. Or do we think that he has some other use for the Lerasium?
Well, isn't Lerasium a piece of Preservations body, just as Atium is a piece of Ruin? Maybe he's gathering shards of the shards of Adonalsium...
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Elusive Fehler
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Re: Hoid??
« Reply #264 on: February 22, 2010, 08:27:11 AM » |
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I'm inclined to believe they took it as a souvenir rather than to use.
Now I am stuck with the idea that Hoid is gong around to beef up his shard souvenir collection(read like stamp collection). So he now has a super rare piece of Leras right before Leras died.
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Raphael
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Re: Hoid??
« Reply #265 on: February 27, 2010, 11:34:00 PM » |
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Here's my theory on Hoid.  I shall assume Adonalsium was sentient. For all intents and purposes, let's compare it to a crystal. A sentient, magical crystal. When Adonalsium was "broken" into shards, however that may have happened, the sentience of the crystal was not. It carried through to each shard, and on each planet the shard is on, the sentience of the crystal manifests itself in the civilizations. These manifestations are Hoid. Poke holes in as you will. 
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Natalie Perkins
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Re: Hoid??
« Reply #266 on: March 02, 2010, 03:52:53 PM » |
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Raphael - I like the whole sentient idea. But I think it would be cool if Hoid somehow "knew" Adonalsium or of it's power or something of the like. And he's planet hopping trying to put it all together to have magnificent awesomeness ensue. Kind of like Kagome and Inuyasha searching for Shards of the Shikon Jewel, perhaps?
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Raphael
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Re: Hoid??
« Reply #267 on: March 02, 2010, 08:31:19 PM » |
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Raphael - I like the whole sentient idea. But I think it would be cool if Hoid somehow "knew" Adonalsium or of it's power or something of the like. And he's planet hopping trying to put it all together to have magnificent awesomeness ensue. Kind of like Kagome and Inuyasha searching for Shards of the Shikon Jewel, perhaps?
Go InuYasha.  I like your idea as well. 
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zarepath
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Re: Hoid??
« Reply #268 on: March 04, 2010, 06:53:28 AM » |
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So there's supposedly a super evil shard in WoK, and I remember reading once (I think) that the shards all kind of oppose each other, like Ruin/Preservation. (Confirmation on that note?)
After reading Brandon's summary of WoK's back story, and how the Voidbringers are trying to pull men into Damnation, I'm wondering if Damnation is the name of the super evil shard in WoK (since it's all capitalized and all). It seems to fit the mold for shards (Ruin, Preservation, Endowment, Damnation), and I can totally see there being an opposing shard called Salvation.
Thoughts?
Also, if that dual shard theory is legit, what would be the shard opposing Endowment?
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douglas
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Re: Hoid??
« Reply #269 on: March 04, 2010, 08:30:46 AM » |
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Also, if that dual shard theory is legit, what would be the shard opposing Endowment?
Deprivation?
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